tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32915027.post565986445146795332..comments2023-08-11T12:10:55.517-04:00Comments on Am Kshe Oref - A Stiff-Necked People: More Evidence Chareidim Simply Aren't Torah Observant...Am Kshe Oref - A Stiff-Necked Peoplehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06244053147685734300noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32915027.post-7835881450959467742007-07-09T14:21:00.000-04:002007-07-09T14:21:00.000-04:00Miriam-- hi wife!Shalom "am kshe oref" (feels funn...Miriam-- hi wife!<BR/><BR/>Shalom "am kshe oref" (feels funny addressing someone this way)--<BR/><BR/>I do think there are certain things one must be aware of to really begin making heads or tails of what's happening to klal yisrael, and one is the erev rav. To really understand this I believe you have to look into "sod" sources. One of the main problems with the erev rav is that because it's an "internal" kelipa (husk), it acts a little bit like a doppelganger, or like those water baloons I used to play with that you try to grab and then slips through your hand... :) But as far as what galut exists today-- well, that's what we're dealing with.<BR/><BR/>At any rate, if possible check out Zohar Bereshit 25A-B and Naso 125B.<BR/><BR/>Another one is Mashiach ben-Yosef. While this concept is found in chazal (the teachings of the Sages), it's really the book Kol HaTor which opens it up, as well as Maamar HaGeulah by the Ramchal.<BR/><BR/>Micha<BR/><BR/>PS. I started a new blog--- maybe you'd be intersted in checking it out? Enjoy.Michahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13850094101476338498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32915027.post-64306550874803507762007-07-09T06:23:00.000-04:002007-07-09T06:23:00.000-04:00Chaim and Miriam,To clarify: When I say Chareidiim...Chaim and Miriam,<BR/><BR/>To clarify: When I say Chareidiim/Yeshivish, I don't mean the ones who actually act like Jews are supposed to act. I have neighbors who are Yeshivishe and are wonderful and have amazing Middos. I mean the ones who turn their noses up at the world with their air of "superiority," the ones who (as with some deleted comments) cal other Jews Nazis, and the ones who all-around just don't act like Jews. You may have read the comments I deleted. I'm talking about that kind of person who, as soon as anyone says something against them, become very nasty peopleAm Kshe Oref - A Stiff-Necked Peoplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06244053147685734300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32915027.post-80245050615151729632007-07-09T03:39:00.000-04:002007-07-09T03:39:00.000-04:00Also, not to say all chareidim. Its a group within...Also, not to say all chareidim. Its a group within. Sadly, its giving "chareidim" a bad name. I myself was almost ready to not be called such, but then I realized its not the name. Its not the handle that matters.<BR/><BR/>Also, I strengthened myself that these things that I hear about do not shake my will do to mitzvot, to LOVE Hashem to be in AWE of Him, and to love my fellow Jew.<BR/><BR/>We've got to hold on to our stregth (Hashem) -we've got to keep our emuna despite what we hear. In the end, its going to be our true WEAPON (and prayer too!)Miriamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06067406973014144499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32915027.post-85182272122302308202007-07-09T03:35:00.000-04:002007-07-09T03:35:00.000-04:00I could be wrong but I think this is strike number...I could be wrong but I think this is strike number two. and as long as we -religious Jews- don't do anything about it things will exacerbate (spell?).<BR/><BR/>When I was becoming frum, the main problem I had was not wanting to do certain mitzvot. I had to rouse up my zealousness and diligence to do certain ones while the others I was okay with doing.<BR/><BR/>Then, as I got "frummer" I got "in" with this crowd who seem to hate everything, everybody, just every. If it wasn't their shitta it was evil.<BR/><BR/>I suspect they don't mean to do bad on purpose, but by virtue of over-zealousness or over diligence they seem to be going back to the point of going full circle right back to not doing the mitzvot correctly.<BR/><BR/>Before such people only ilicited intimidation and made everyone want to hide and pretend to be more frum than they really are. (basically fear of man vs yirat shamayim was tipped)<BR/><BR/>Now strike 1= declaring someone not Jewish because they don't like cholent<BR/><BR/>strike 2=Beit Shemesh.<BR/><BR/>its getting more and more daring.<BR/>(I suspect this form of over-zealousness brings on bad actions)<BR/><BR/>The question I have is: What are we suppose to do about it?Miriamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06067406973014144499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32915027.post-16588236440779822802007-07-08T22:09:00.000-04:002007-07-08T22:09:00.000-04:00as a chreidi jew myself,i must say that these hood...as a chreidi jew myself,i must say that these hoodlums,that stone buses in beth shemesh.and burn the streets in jerusalem,are nothing but ignorant savages,and should be dealt with accordinglyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com